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		<title>By: WereBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>WereBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope your little girl wasn&#039;t hurt. It is right to stop the cat&#039;s hurting, that is the best you can do. I&#039;m sorry about your wife. It makes these decisions all the more difficult when we have too many to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope your little girl wasn&#8217;t hurt. It is right to stop the cat&#8217;s hurting, that is the best you can do. I&#8217;m sorry about your wife. It makes these decisions all the more difficult when we have too many to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just come across this as I try to find answers to &quot;cat&quot; questions.  We adopted our little friend  when we were told he was about 4, same age as our daughter, perfect fit.  As we all have read above and experinced in one way or another life does end.
We adopted to help teach our child responsibilty and care for animals, as a married couple we have had 3 dogs, 2 cats and a hammie.  
When my wife was diagnosed, treated and eventually I had to make that decision I think how my daughter would react.  She knows her mom was sick and that I somehow had to save her but couldn&#039;t.  The choice...how do I tell my little girl the cat is sick nad cannot be helped?  I am struggling with this and truthfully would just as soon open the door and let him out into the world I saved him from..but?
I am unable to afford a regular vet visit let alone any type of treatment...am I doing the right thing, who knows but when 
hw went for her face tonight my mind was made up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just come across this as I try to find answers to &#8220;cat&#8221; questions.  We adopted our little friend  when we were told he was about 4, same age as our daughter, perfect fit.  As we all have read above and experinced in one way or another life does end.<br />
We adopted to help teach our child responsibilty and care for animals, as a married couple we have had 3 dogs, 2 cats and a hammie.<br />
When my wife was diagnosed, treated and eventually I had to make that decision I think how my daughter would react.  She knows her mom was sick and that I somehow had to save her but couldn&#8217;t.  The choice&#8230;how do I tell my little girl the cat is sick nad cannot be helped?  I am struggling with this and truthfully would just as soon open the door and let him out into the world I saved him from..but?<br />
I am unable to afford a regular vet visit let alone any type of treatment&#8230;am I doing the right thing, who knows but when<br />
hw went for her face tonight my mind was made up.</p>
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		<title>By: WereBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>WereBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kay, I hope you can be at peace, too. You gave her a wonderful life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kay, I hope you can be at peace, too. You gave her a wonderful life.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After much angst, yesterday I had my 20 1/2 year old cat put to sleep. She was having kidney failure, sores in her mouth, ate less than 1/4 cup of food all week, wobbly back legs, and was deaf. To let her go was one of the most difficult decisions I&#039;ve ever made. My daughter drove, this was her first cat, and I held Spice on my lap. It was a beautiful day, the sunroof was open and the sun was shining and warm breezes lightly ruffled her hair. I was scratching her head and she was completely relaxed. Of course I was a mess and still am. She was so peaceful after the doctor&#039;s shot, no response to the medicine except slipping away while I was there for her. 

Again..although I know it was the right thing, it is still too new and I&#039;m in mourning. Grateful for all the years we had with her...she played and ran and loved to sleep on my lap. She&#039;d get me up at 5:30 AM and patiently wait for me to get to the kitchen for &quot;breakfast.&quot; A couple dogs who visited where put in their place by her hisses when she was a youngster. So many good memories, but such a very tough decision for me to let her go. She&#039;s now at peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After much angst, yesterday I had my 20 1/2 year old cat put to sleep. She was having kidney failure, sores in her mouth, ate less than 1/4 cup of food all week, wobbly back legs, and was deaf. To let her go was one of the most difficult decisions I&#8217;ve ever made. My daughter drove, this was her first cat, and I held Spice on my lap. It was a beautiful day, the sunroof was open and the sun was shining and warm breezes lightly ruffled her hair. I was scratching her head and she was completely relaxed. Of course I was a mess and still am. She was so peaceful after the doctor&#8217;s shot, no response to the medicine except slipping away while I was there for her. </p>
<p>Again..although I know it was the right thing, it is still too new and I&#8217;m in mourning. Grateful for all the years we had with her&#8230;she played and ran and loved to sleep on my lap. She&#8217;d get me up at 5:30 AM and patiently wait for me to get to the kitchen for &#8220;breakfast.&#8221; A couple dogs who visited where put in their place by her hisses when she was a youngster. So many good memories, but such a very tough decision for me to let her go. She&#8217;s now at peace.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Naamah, I&#039;m following up because I learned more about the sedative I mentioned.  I was at the vet today with our youngest cat, so I asked about something to give our worst traveler, Robie, next time he goes in the car. The vet recommended a less-intense dose of the sedative she gave for Daemon for his final trip, so I learned that it is Acepromazine.  She asked if shots or pills would be better, explaining that the pills take an hour to take effect, whereas I&#039;d already seen the shot is immediate.  For Robie&#039;s routine vet trips I elected pills, since it only takes one person to give him a pill.  I asked what to expect, and she said it should just take the edge off his anxiety and that I might see his inner eyelids, indicating  he&#039;s very sleepy. The dose that had mostly immobilized Daemon was much higher because it was intended for his final trip and she wanted to make sure the effects would last long enough in case he ended up having to go after-hours at our town&#039;s emergency vet clinic, which he did.  So, that was all very good to learn!

WereBear,  you are right, my worry was probably mostly grief-driven.  

Also, about the cat-only clinic - our town has one and we switched to it many years ago.  Our previous vet was not too competent with cats which we found out the hard way.  The cat-only clinic is awesome, staffed by devoted Cat Persons and since our cats aren&#039;t used to dogs their absence at the vet is a nice bonus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Naamah, I&#8217;m following up because I learned more about the sedative I mentioned.  I was at the vet today with our youngest cat, so I asked about something to give our worst traveler, Robie, next time he goes in the car. The vet recommended a less-intense dose of the sedative she gave for Daemon for his final trip, so I learned that it is Acepromazine.  She asked if shots or pills would be better, explaining that the pills take an hour to take effect, whereas I&#8217;d already seen the shot is immediate.  For Robie&#8217;s routine vet trips I elected pills, since it only takes one person to give him a pill.  I asked what to expect, and she said it should just take the edge off his anxiety and that I might see his inner eyelids, indicating  he&#8217;s very sleepy. The dose that had mostly immobilized Daemon was much higher because it was intended for his final trip and she wanted to make sure the effects would last long enough in case he ended up having to go after-hours at our town&#8217;s emergency vet clinic, which he did.  So, that was all very good to learn!</p>
<p>WereBear,  you are right, my worry was probably mostly grief-driven.  </p>
<p>Also, about the cat-only clinic &#8211; our town has one and we switched to it many years ago.  Our previous vet was not too competent with cats which we found out the hard way.  The cat-only clinic is awesome, staffed by devoted Cat Persons and since our cats aren&#8217;t used to dogs their absence at the vet is a nice bonus.</p>
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		<title>By: WereBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>WereBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 11:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Mel, don&#039;t worry. If he acted relaxed, he was relaxed. If they are under stress, they try to manage &quot;cool.&quot; I&#039;m sure you are right about how he felt; weren&#039;t you pretty good at that? So please be at peace about, after all, handling it so well.


It does help to be more prepared.

I&#039;ll have two more posts on this very subject; because it is such a big one. They will be on Sundays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Mel, don&#8217;t worry. If he acted relaxed, he was relaxed. If they are under stress, they try to manage &#8220;cool.&#8221; I&#8217;m sure you are right about how he felt; weren&#8217;t you pretty good at that? So please be at peace about, after all, handling it so well.</p>
<p>It does help to be more prepared.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have two more posts on this very subject; because it is such a big one. They will be on Sundays.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 01:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice WereBear, as always!

Naamah, I agonized over the exact same issue - even though I&#039;d know I was doing the right thing, how could I bring myself to take them on that final trip? When Daemon was in the final stages of kidney failure I asked the vet about this, and brought up our concerns:  Daemon was terrified of all Other Humans and very upset in the car.  One of our other cats gets very carsick and panics in the car.  She said that she doesn&#039;t do house calls but did give us a strong sedative shot that we could give Daemon at home, when we decided his time had come. One day about a month later, he wouldn&#039;t eat and by the time I finally got him to eat some tuna that evening, he was acting strange and couldn&#039;t move one leg. We gave him the shot while he was distracted by the tuna.  It took effect so fast that he fell over and couldn&#039;t get up if he tried, and seemed relaxed, remaining so through the trip and procedure.  He definitely seemed better off than he would&#039;ve been without the sedative, but part of me still frets: what if it just immobilized his body but left his mind intact to be terrified?  Is there any real way to know?  I don&#039;t remember the name of the drug but will definitely ask about it and see if there are any other options, the next time something like this comes up when talking to our vet.  

It&#039;s hard on us owners to bring up these experiences, but that&#039;s the only way we can compare notes and learn about options to help our pets.  This was the first time I had to make The Decision; as my previous pets had belonged to my parents.  When it was getting close, I did some searching on the web and read others&#039; stories of what it is like to be there at the end with your pet.  It helped to be more prepared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice WereBear, as always!</p>
<p>Naamah, I agonized over the exact same issue &#8211; even though I&#8217;d know I was doing the right thing, how could I bring myself to take them on that final trip? When Daemon was in the final stages of kidney failure I asked the vet about this, and brought up our concerns:  Daemon was terrified of all Other Humans and very upset in the car.  One of our other cats gets very carsick and panics in the car.  She said that she doesn&#8217;t do house calls but did give us a strong sedative shot that we could give Daemon at home, when we decided his time had come. One day about a month later, he wouldn&#8217;t eat and by the time I finally got him to eat some tuna that evening, he was acting strange and couldn&#8217;t move one leg. We gave him the shot while he was distracted by the tuna.  It took effect so fast that he fell over and couldn&#8217;t get up if he tried, and seemed relaxed, remaining so through the trip and procedure.  He definitely seemed better off than he would&#8217;ve been without the sedative, but part of me still frets: what if it just immobilized his body but left his mind intact to be terrified?  Is there any real way to know?  I don&#8217;t remember the name of the drug but will definitely ask about it and see if there are any other options, the next time something like this comes up when talking to our vet.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard on us owners to bring up these experiences, but that&#8217;s the only way we can compare notes and learn about options to help our pets.  This was the first time I had to make The Decision; as my previous pets had belonged to my parents.  When it was getting close, I did some searching on the web and read others&#8217; stories of what it is like to be there at the end with your pet.  It helped to be more prepared.</p>
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		<title>By: WereBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>WereBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t know how to ask.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I understand your worries, Naamah, but it&#039;s the kind of thing that is helped by taking action. Start with the vet you have now; or, if you are between vets, just start calling. Say you have a cat with these fears, and what help they can offer.

Discovering how they react to your concerns is going to be very instructive about how helpful they will be with them. I&#039;m assertive; I hire them, after all!

Remember that vets also have an ethical obligation; they will find it difficult to answer some of the questions if they have never seen the cat. But I live in a tiny town, and there&#039;s a vet here who makes housecalls. Looking for an ad or website which mentions such a service would be a great place to start.

Another new trend I&#039;m very happy about is cat-only vet clinics. See if your area has such a service.

You have to unfreeze from your fears and take action; so you can see what can be done about your cat&#039;s fears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t know how to ask.</p></blockquote>
<p>I understand your worries, Naamah, but it&#8217;s the kind of thing that is helped by taking action. Start with the vet you have now; or, if you are between vets, just start calling. Say you have a cat with these fears, and what help they can offer.</p>
<p>Discovering how they react to your concerns is going to be very instructive about how helpful they will be with them. I&#8217;m assertive; I hire them, after all!</p>
<p>Remember that vets also have an ethical obligation; they will find it difficult to answer some of the questions if they have never seen the cat. But I live in a tiny town, and there&#8217;s a vet here who makes housecalls. Looking for an ad or website which mentions such a service would be a great place to start.</p>
<p>Another new trend I&#8217;m very happy about is cat-only vet clinics. See if your area has such a service.</p>
<p>You have to unfreeze from your fears and take action; so you can see what can be done about your cat&#8217;s fears.</p>
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		<title>By: WereBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>WereBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 06:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an excellent point about how well cats hide their pain, Mel.

One of my clues that my beloved Myron was having a hard time was that instead of relaxing on my lap, he would stay tucked in and tense, and dig his claws into my knee. His personality didn&#039;t change, but his body language was communicating distress.

I picked up Mr. Bond for a cuddle one time, and he made a distressed little noise; though otherwise his behavior was unchanged. But I knew I hadn&#039;t picked him up badly, and it turned out he had a tooth in bad shape; not anywhere near where I was picking him up.

Thanks for the compliment; it has been very cathartic to help others on a subject that doesn&#039;t get near enough coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an excellent point about how well cats hide their pain, Mel.</p>
<p>One of my clues that my beloved Myron was having a hard time was that instead of relaxing on my lap, he would stay tucked in and tense, and dig his claws into my knee. His personality didn&#8217;t change, but his body language was communicating distress.</p>
<p>I picked up Mr. Bond for a cuddle one time, and he made a distressed little noise; though otherwise his behavior was unchanged. But I knew I hadn&#8217;t picked him up badly, and it turned out he had a tooth in bad shape; not anywhere near where I was picking him up.</p>
<p>Thanks for the compliment; it has been very cathartic to help others on a subject that doesn&#8217;t get near enough coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Naamah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naamah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this.  My eldest two are aging, and it won&#039;t be long before I have to deal with this.

My only real fear, and it&#039;s very real and very upsetting to me, is that both of my cats are terribly, terribly afraid of the vet&#039;s office, of the car, of the carrier, everything.  I can&#039;t . . . I just . . . I can&#039;t bear the thought of taking them on such a terrifying and horrible journey only to have them put down at the end of it, with no homecoming, no comfort, no recourse of any kind.

I know my girls.  They adore me.  But my presence alone has never been, and probably never will be, enough to comfort them when they are in terror like that.  The idea that they may at that point be suffering so greatly that going to the Worst Place and dying there is a mercy is comfort colder than anything I can think of.  It is the absolute zero of cold comfort.

My youngest cat, she doesn&#039;t have that fear.  She&#039;s happy, she&#039;s fearless, she never met a person she didn&#039;t like.  My eldest . . . what does one do?  Not for us, not for our pain -- my pain means nothing to me, I will always be there fo rmy babies, even to make that last awful decision -- but for them, and for their fear?  I don&#039;t know how to find a vet who would come to my home and do it.  I don&#039;t know how to ask.

Ah, see, I&#039;m crying now.  You are wonderful, and you are strong for writing about these things so near to such a time.  We are all grateful.  You are right.  We don&#039;t get much instruction on dealing with issues like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this.  My eldest two are aging, and it won&#8217;t be long before I have to deal with this.</p>
<p>My only real fear, and it&#8217;s very real and very upsetting to me, is that both of my cats are terribly, terribly afraid of the vet&#8217;s office, of the car, of the carrier, everything.  I can&#8217;t . . . I just . . . I can&#8217;t bear the thought of taking them on such a terrifying and horrible journey only to have them put down at the end of it, with no homecoming, no comfort, no recourse of any kind.</p>
<p>I know my girls.  They adore me.  But my presence alone has never been, and probably never will be, enough to comfort them when they are in terror like that.  The idea that they may at that point be suffering so greatly that going to the Worst Place and dying there is a mercy is comfort colder than anything I can think of.  It is the absolute zero of cold comfort.</p>
<p>My youngest cat, she doesn&#8217;t have that fear.  She&#8217;s happy, she&#8217;s fearless, she never met a person she didn&#8217;t like.  My eldest . . . what does one do?  Not for us, not for our pain &#8212; my pain means nothing to me, I will always be there fo rmy babies, even to make that last awful decision &#8212; but for them, and for their fear?  I don&#8217;t know how to find a vet who would come to my home and do it.  I don&#8217;t know how to ask.</p>
<p>Ah, see, I&#8217;m crying now.  You are wonderful, and you are strong for writing about these things so near to such a time.  We are all grateful.  You are right.  We don&#8217;t get much instruction on dealing with issues like this.</p>
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